Comments on: 10 Marks of the Early Church http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/ Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:45:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Derek http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-162771 Derek Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:45:06 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-162771 "If we held the values 1-Refused bloodthirsty sports, 2-Refused militarism, 4-Empowered women, 9-Mixed races and classes, and 10-Were radically for the poor, we would be considered liberal by conservative ideology." I find this deeply offensive. I attend a Southern Baptist Church (not a bastion of liberalism by any measure) and I can tell you we hold to all of these values stridently. I think you are falling prey to what our opponents say about us rather than the truth. “If we held the values 1-Refused bloodthirsty sports, 2-Refused militarism, 4-Empowered women, 9-Mixed races and classes, and 10-Were radically for the poor, we would be considered liberal by conservative ideology.”

I find this deeply offensive. I attend a Southern Baptist Church (not a bastion of liberalism by any measure) and I can tell you we hold to all of these values stridently. I think you are falling prey to what our opponents say about us rather than the truth.

]]> By: Chad http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-143210 Chad Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:35:32 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-143210 I like that list you gave there of the Early Church. For the most part the Anabaptists have constantly tried obeying teachings like that which we see from scripture. Of that list the one we might struggle with the most is empowering women. I like that list you gave there of the Early Church. For the most part the Anabaptists have constantly tried obeying teachings like that which we see from scripture. Of that list the one we might struggle with the most is empowering women.

]]> By: Tony Myles http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-141881 Tony Myles Thu, 22 May 2008 03:09:09 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-141881 This is great stuff... I haven't come across this in a list form before. Here's my struggle, though - I admire the early Church on many levels and believe its practices are to be emulated. I always have to remind myself of context, though, for if I was to look at David's reign, for instance, I'd participate in war as a tool of my faith. That's one struggle with being a 21st Century Christian. I have the luxury of being a man of peace because others before me used war. I will continue to propogate a love for my enemies as Jesus does and the early Church did... but if someone were to come into my house tonight to kill my family I'd grab my sword. This is great stuff… I haven’t come across this in a list form before.

Here’s my struggle, though – I admire the early Church on many levels and believe its practices are to be emulated. I always have to remind myself of context, though, for if I was to look at David’s reign, for instance, I’d participate in war as a tool of my faith.

That’s one struggle with being a 21st Century Christian. I have the luxury of being a man of peace because others before me used war. I will continue to propogate a love for my enemies as Jesus does and the early Church did… but if someone were to come into my house tonight to kill my family I’d grab my sword.

]]> By: glasses off. / Counter-cultural http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-14825 glasses off. / Counter-cultural Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:45:58 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-14825 [...] Read all 10 Marks of the Early Church (guess which two I don’t feel like discussing because I think they are more complex than soundbites?). [...] [...] Read all 10 Marks of the Early Church (guess which two I don’t feel like discussing because I think they are more complex than soundbites?). [...]

]]> By: more will be revealed: the personal blog of tom osypian » 10 marks of the early church http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9252 more will be revealed: the personal blog of tom osypian » 10 marks of the early church Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:53:45 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-9252 [...] After finishing that post, I took a look around at the rest of his posts and one quickly caught my eye: 10 Marks of the Early Church. I’ve read a number of books on the early church, including books written by the Ante-Nicene fathers, but I don’t think I’ve come across a better summary than this. Here they are: • 1- They refused to attend blood thirsty entertainment. They wouldn’t go to gladiatorial events because they believed it defiled humans who were created in the image of God. This made them appear to be anti-social. Tertullian and Augustine both write about these events in a negative light. • 2- They did not serve in the military to support Caesar’s wars of conquest, which made them appear weak. • 3- They were against abortion and infanticide. In this culture, both were considered acceptable. To throw your baby out on the dung heap if you didn’t want it was not taboo. • 4- They empowered women by showing their value and dignity in places of learning and service which had previously been exclusively for men. Christians held women in high regard and treasured them rather than viewing them as just a step above expendable children and servants. • 5- They were against sex outside of marriage. This fidelity was considered odd and against culture. Sex was viewed as nothing more than a desire like eating or sleeping. Christians held a high view of the bed and kept it pure and would not engage in sex outside of marriage. • 6- They were against homosexual relationships. This was odd in a time when same sex practice was not frowned upon. • 7- They were exceptionally generous with their resources. They shared what they had with one another and welcomed others in with a hospitality that was unparalleled. • 8- They were radically for the poor. In a time when the poor and downtrodden were viewed as getting what they deserved, they were aggressively committed to loving and serving people in the margins of society. • 9- They mixed races and social classes in ways that were unseen in their gatherings, and for it they were considered scandalous. • 10- They believed only Christ was the way to salvation. This was in a time when everyone had a god and could believe something entirely different and it was totally acceptable to be polytheists and pluralistic. Christians dared claim that Jesus was the only way and refused to bend to other gods. [...] [...] After finishing that post, I took a look around at the rest of his posts and one quickly caught my eye: 10 Marks of the Early Church. I’ve read a number of books on the early church, including books written by the Ante-Nicene fathers, but I don’t think I’ve come across a better summary than this. Here they are: • 1- They refused to attend blood thirsty entertainment. They wouldn’t go to gladiatorial events because they believed it defiled humans who were created in the image of God. This made them appear to be anti-social. Tertullian and Augustine both write about these events in a negative light. • 2- They did not serve in the military to support Caesar’s wars of conquest, which made them appear weak. • 3- They were against abortion and infanticide. In this culture, both were considered acceptable. To throw your baby out on the dung heap if you didn’t want it was not taboo. • 4- They empowered women by showing their value and dignity in places of learning and service which had previously been exclusively for men. Christians held women in high regard and treasured them rather than viewing them as just a step above expendable children and servants. • 5- They were against sex outside of marriage. This fidelity was considered odd and against culture. Sex was viewed as nothing more than a desire like eating or sleeping. Christians held a high view of the bed and kept it pure and would not engage in sex outside of marriage. • 6- They were against homosexual relationships. This was odd in a time when same sex practice was not frowned upon. • 7- They were exceptionally generous with their resources. They shared what they had with one another and welcomed others in with a hospitality that was unparalleled. • 8- They were radically for the poor. In a time when the poor and downtrodden were viewed as getting what they deserved, they were aggressively committed to loving and serving people in the margins of society. • 9- They mixed races and social classes in ways that were unseen in their gatherings, and for it they were considered scandalous. • 10- They believed only Christ was the way to salvation. This was in a time when everyone had a god and could believe something entirely different and it was totally acceptable to be polytheists and pluralistic. Christians dared claim that Jesus was the only way and refused to bend to other gods. [...]

]]> By: Prophetic Musings : 10 Marks of the Early Church http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9244 Prophetic Musings : 10 Marks of the Early Church Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:26:27 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-9244 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: bpratico http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9243 bpratico Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:06:30 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-9243 Beautifully and eloquently said, David. Bravo and Amen! Bob Pratico <a href="http://sojournhuntsville.org/" rel="nofollow">Sojourn Huntsville</a> Beautifully and eloquently said, David. Bravo and Amen!

Bob Pratico
Sojourn Huntsville

]]> By: alazycowboy.com » Blog Archive » David Fairchild » 博客文章 » 10 Marks of the Early Church http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9240 alazycowboy.com » Blog Archive » David Fairchild » 博客文章 » 10 Marks of the Early Church Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:43:59 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-9240 [...] Source: David Fairchild » 博客文章 » 10 Marks of the Early Church [...] [...] Source: David Fairchild » 博客文章 » 10 Marks of the Early Church [...]

]]> By: The Second Mouse Gets the Cheese http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9238 The Second Mouse Gets the Cheese Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:59:43 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-9238 <strong>Blogspotting: 10 Marks of the Early Church...</strong> Rodney Stark and other sociologists tell us there were 10 values of early Christians that stood in stark (no pun intended) contrast to the pluralistic pagan culture of Rome. Let’s prayferfully think through these values and match them to the witness ... Blogspotting: 10 Marks of the Early Church…

Rodney Stark and other sociologists tell us there were 10 values of early Christians that stood in stark (no pun intended) contrast to the pluralistic pagan culture of Rome. Let’s prayferfully think through these values and match them to the witness …

]]> By: 10 marks of the early church at Hismethod http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9231 10 marks of the early church at Hismethod Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:06:33 +0000 http://david.kaleochurch.org/2007-02/05/10-marks-of-the-early-church/#comment-9231 [...] David Fairchild has a very interesting post detailing the 10 marks of the early church that stood it apart from the prevailing culture of the pagan Roman empire of the time. 1- They refused to attend blood thirsty entertainment. 2- They did not serve in the military to support Caesar’s wars of conquest, which made them appear weak. 3- They were against abortion and infanticide. 4- They empowered women by showing their value and dignity. 5- They were against sex outside of marriage. 6- They were against homosexual relationships. 7- They were exceptionally generous with their resources. 8- They were radically for the poor. 9- They mixed races and social classes in ways that were considered scandalous. 10- They believed only Christ was the way to salvation. [...] [...] David Fairchild has a very interesting post detailing the 10 marks of the early church that stood it apart from the prevailing culture of the pagan Roman empire of the time. 1- They refused to attend blood thirsty entertainment. 2- They did not serve in the military to support Caesar’s wars of conquest, which made them appear weak. 3- They were against abortion and infanticide. 4- They empowered women by showing their value and dignity. 5- They were against sex outside of marriage. 6- They were against homosexual relationships. 7- They were exceptionally generous with their resources. 8- They were radically for the poor. 9- They mixed races and social classes in ways that were considered scandalous. 10- They believed only Christ was the way to salvation. [...]

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